The Canon 3 | 11/17/14
Romeo + Juliet
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On this week’s episode, Devin Faraci and Amy Nicholson discuss Baz Luhrmann’s Romeo + Juliet and whether this super emotional totally over the top version of Romeo & Juliet belongs in the canon. How cool is it that Leonardo DiCaprio spends the entire movie wet? What happened to Claire Danes after her spectacular performance in this film? Will Devin & Amy finally be on the same page and agree that they both enjoy the movie? Tune in for the battle -- and head to the forums to cast the deciding vote! Plus, we’ll find out the results for last week’s movie Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.


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gbsgunner
gbsgunner
4 posts

Its just not good enough in any of the categories Devin mentioned, its not the best Shakespeare, or even Romeo and Juliet movies. Its good just not good enough, so no. Also side-note with inflation the movie costed 22 million and made 224 million.

jordango
jordango
6 posts

As much as I love this movie, I just don't think its good for the Canon. I agree, Moulin Rouge I love so much more, its infinitely watchable. Also, West Side Story gets me every time. Obviously Im a fan of the musical. Side note: Ive always had a theory, that might be backed up by what you two talked about as Mercutio's love for Romeo: In Moulin Rouge, I've always thought that Lautrec is actually in love with Christian, and because of this love, he does the hard thing and helps him get Satine. The clues are all there!! And here's the precedent. Anyway, it's a good movie, just not good enough.

jacobking961556
jacobking961556
51 posts

Third episode in and Devin is flipping the rules, how can tripe like Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom be in the Canon when there are 2 and a half better Indiana Jones movies but Romeo+Juliet should be excluded just because it is not the best Romeo and Juliet movie? Personally this is one of my all time favorites but I was 15 years old when it was released so I will admit my bias.

kevinirmiter
kevinirmiter
11 posts

Did JACOBKING actually listen to last episode all the way to the end? Devin said Temple of Doom DIDN'T belong in the canon. Anyway I agree with him on this one--very good movie, just not one of the all time greats.

mouchette
mouchette
1 posts

No this does not belong in "The Canon". Amy's perspective on this film is exactly why I think this film is given far too much shrift. It has a cult audience of suburban white people who weren't going that far to look for art in their teenage years, and that's basically it...harsh but true.

troydarling
troydarling
8 posts

I definitely think this belongs in the Canon. I'm a little unclear on what their criteria is for Canon status, but calling a film timeless is a valid reason one. It's a movie that I've seen dozens of times, most without intending to. As soon as that opening starts, I'm hooked. It's exactly what Shakespeare would have done and it is tone perfect. I wanted to hate this going into the theatre. My wife and I both had theatre backgrounds and were feeling like Leo was not going to be our Romeo. And we both loved the Zeffirelli version too. (You can like more than one. Why would you have a rule about that? Should there be only one Mob movie?) But the moment the newscaster comes on, we are in Baz' world until it clicks off at the end. It's as loud and reckless as its protagonists and everyone should see it at least once, which for me is good enough reason to put it in.

troydarling
troydarling
8 posts

If I were to vote for criteria, I'd say that films in the Canon should 1) Be a film every body should see at least once, 2) advance the art in in some way -- technique, subject, performance etc., and 3) Not suck. Other ideas?

pdb
pdb
17 posts

I do think that the hosts need to sit down and agree on terms and criteria for what is canon and what does not measure up to canon. I agree with the criteria TROYDARLING suggests, at least for a starting point.

I also would vote YES to Romeo plus Juliet. The opening, the satge on the beach (hurricane), intense leo face, these are images that will never fade.

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