The Canon 1 | 11/4/14
Goodfellas
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Welcome to The Canon with Devin Faraci and Amy Nicholson. This week they're debating if Martin Scorsese’s Goodfellas belongs in the canon of the greatest films of all time. Does Devin’s Italian heritage sway his feelings for Scorsese? How can Amy insist Goodfellas is overrated when normal people say it's the best mafia movie ever made? Are the women portrayed unfairly? And is Joe Pesci, who won an Oscar for the role, miscast? Tune in for the battle -- and then cast the deciding vote!


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doubtingapostle
doubtingapostle
6 posts

We supposed to vote somewhere?

kflinn
kflinn
1 posts

Lets just vote here. Goodfellas is in by a mile. I respect a lot of what Amy has done, but her argument here is really under supported. Judge the movie on what it is and not what you want it to be.

soitgoes5
soitgoes5
3 posts

Canon! Probably the best paced film ever made.

mlv
mlv
1 posts

let-me-teach-you-about-cinema condescension was a bit cringe-worthy. still going to listen though, that's my only criticism. i'm non-canon on this even though i enjoyed it whenever i've watched it there are too many other Scorsese films above this that are deserving.

notthewhostommy
notthewhostommy
7 posts

Yeah, Goodfellas is definitely in The Canon. Reveals an obviously truncated and not-completely-historically-accurate version of this story that does give us a natural connection to all of these people. The style compliments the substance, not distract from it. Sorry Amy; guess I have to "conform" and side with Devin/most people on this one.

tdferro
tdferro
4 posts

I'm sad I'm too late to vote no on Goodfellas. So, I'm adding it now. No. I love your rapport you two! Excited about your show.

nlmnyc
nlmnyc
1 posts

Is Amy really a film critic?

What movies does she like? I can't get into this show because she is oblivious. I'll tune in just to see if she likes anything that is actually good. No to Goodfellas? One of the best movies of all time. And then to say it's sexist? Of course it is, it's a mob movie! They are sexist.

I need to see more. But right now, I'm very worried about Amy on this show. A tastemaker needs to have taste.

danielheard
danielheard
1 posts

Not exactly enjoying this as much as I thought I would. Maybe I just get cringey during arguments. I know this is her function, but Amy's contrarian opinion for the sake of being contrary is this case is grating. I've read her reviews and they seem way more balanced and studied than this. She seems to be denying Scorcese authorial (or “autuerial”) intent. As though he tripped through film history without learning that freeze frames are gratuitous or voiceover was verboten. I really can't believe half of her arguments are founded in personal opinion, instead coming from a delight in hurting her co-hosts feelings.

voodooliqour
voodooliqour
4 posts

WOW, I dont think im going to be able to stand Amy. It has nothing to do with her position either. One of the things she says first, is that the movie is sexist. Which is fine. I dont see it's sexism, but that's fine. Then at one point, Devin jokingly says he's going to explain how people work. Then she, for no fucking reason says "you're going to tell me how women work?". No, he said people. Women are people just like men. The fact she jumped straight to the sex of the character is in of itself, sexist. As it implies women are completely different intellectually and emotionally. Were supposed to be making strides in realizing that that's not the case.
Not only that, she seems to think that men cant have any insight whatsoever on how a person works, if that person is a woman. She even loads her "sexism gun" before he begins talking, because anything said about women, by a man. HAS to be sexist.
Also, it was really rude, and uncalled for to say Ray Liotta is "weird looking" and shou

voodooliqour
voodooliqour
4 posts

I dont know if my message got cut, so i'll just re post my last paragraph.
It was really rude, and uncalled for to say Ray Liotta is "weird looking" and shouldn't be a movie star for that. She even seems to think that's a valid point. I somehow think she would have strong feelings if someone said that about an actress.